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#11
Discussions / Mapping Velocity
Last post by Baloran - November 18, 2024, 11:26:47 AMInteresting question from a customer of The Pool
"I am not sure I understand the velocity sensitivity of The Pool. It seems that none of the presets are velocity sensitive. I have an Arturia KeyStep 37 and a NI Komplete Kontrol S61 connected to The Pool - both are velocity sensitive, but the presets of The Pool are always equally loud - regardless of how hard I press the keys. Now, I could - of course - use velocity to modulate the ENV1 and ENV2 of VCA1 and VCA2. Is that the idea... I mean to make The Pool velocity sensitive?
But then, if it works like this, I have the following issue...
First of all, to keep things simple, I MUTE VCA2. Then, I modulate ENV1 of VCA1 by setting VELOCITY to 100. But as soon as I change VELOCITY from Off to 1 or 2, or 3, or 4 ... to 100, there is no sound anymore. No matter how hard or soft I press the keys, there is no sound. When I set the value for VELOCITY to -100 (so negative)... it works! A soft press give a loud sound, a hard press gives a soft sound.
Is this a bug, or do I simply not understand something?"
My Replys
"There's no default routing for velocity. It's a modulation source like any other, available in the modulation matrix. If I click the button below FREQ (filter frequency) and set a positive value in the VELOCITY modulation (bottom right), then the filter opening depends on velocity, and in the right direction
I thought I saw several presets with Velocity modulation active. But I can't find them
For the volume to be effectively velocity-dependent on output, your solution is a good one. You need to set ENV1 to 40, for example, and the VELOCITY modulation to 100. If you set ENV to Zero, the addition of ENV plus VELOCITY will make it difficult to play at very low velocities, which will be inaudible. It's not as simple as classic routing, but so much more powerful. For example, you can morph velocity by putting positive on one side and negative on the other, at both PANs for example, but also at VCO1 VCO2 etc... You can even assign Velocity to the balance of VCF1 - VCF2 etc...."
"Can you make this test ?
(tested on my KEYSTEP 37)
Press INIT
Mute VCA 2
Set ENV1 to 77
Set VELOCITY to 60 in modulation of ENV1.
77 adapt the minimal level and modulation the dynamique of change"
"
I just did a little test.
I set FX LEVEL of the reverb to 50
MOD SRC = The Pool Card 1
NEXT NEXT NEXT
VELOCITY = 100
Velocity adjusts the reverb
"
"I am not sure I understand the velocity sensitivity of The Pool. It seems that none of the presets are velocity sensitive. I have an Arturia KeyStep 37 and a NI Komplete Kontrol S61 connected to The Pool - both are velocity sensitive, but the presets of The Pool are always equally loud - regardless of how hard I press the keys. Now, I could - of course - use velocity to modulate the ENV1 and ENV2 of VCA1 and VCA2. Is that the idea... I mean to make The Pool velocity sensitive?
But then, if it works like this, I have the following issue...
First of all, to keep things simple, I MUTE VCA2. Then, I modulate ENV1 of VCA1 by setting VELOCITY to 100. But as soon as I change VELOCITY from Off to 1 or 2, or 3, or 4 ... to 100, there is no sound anymore. No matter how hard or soft I press the keys, there is no sound. When I set the value for VELOCITY to -100 (so negative)... it works! A soft press give a loud sound, a hard press gives a soft sound.
Is this a bug, or do I simply not understand something?"
My Replys
"There's no default routing for velocity. It's a modulation source like any other, available in the modulation matrix. If I click the button below FREQ (filter frequency) and set a positive value in the VELOCITY modulation (bottom right), then the filter opening depends on velocity, and in the right direction
I thought I saw several presets with Velocity modulation active. But I can't find them
For the volume to be effectively velocity-dependent on output, your solution is a good one. You need to set ENV1 to 40, for example, and the VELOCITY modulation to 100. If you set ENV to Zero, the addition of ENV plus VELOCITY will make it difficult to play at very low velocities, which will be inaudible. It's not as simple as classic routing, but so much more powerful. For example, you can morph velocity by putting positive on one side and negative on the other, at both PANs for example, but also at VCO1 VCO2 etc... You can even assign Velocity to the balance of VCF1 - VCF2 etc...."
"Can you make this test ?
(tested on my KEYSTEP 37)
Press INIT
Mute VCA 2
Set ENV1 to 77
Set VELOCITY to 60 in modulation of ENV1.
77 adapt the minimal level and modulation the dynamique of change
""
I just did a little test.
I set FX LEVEL of the reverb to 50
MOD SRC = The Pool Card 1
NEXT NEXT NEXT
VELOCITY = 100
Velocity adjusts the reverb
"
#12
Discussions / Scala files
Last post by Baloran - November 18, 2024, 11:21:54 AMI'm thinking about importing Scala microtonal files into The Pool. Initially via SD, perhaps also via Midi. The SCL file poses no problem, but mapping to "keyboard keys" is more of a pain.
Do you think it would be useful to link a .kbm file (with the same name) to the .scl file, or would a simple automatic mapping algorithm be sufficient? Do you have any ideas on the subject?
Do you think it would be useful to link a .kbm file (with the same name) to the .scl file, or would a simple automatic mapping algorithm be sufficient? Do you have any ideas on the subject?
#13
Discussions / Re: a tuning fantasy
Last post by chrisp - July 25, 2024, 05:05:20 PM...and for those into exotic instruments, this function of being able to retune each note on the fly is
very similar to how a Qanun functions which offers endless pitch inflections...
very similar to how a Qanun functions which offers endless pitch inflections...
#14
Discussions / Re: a tuning fantasy
Last post by chrisp - July 22, 2024, 10:42:36 AMJust in case we need more info...
Each seq encoder 1-64 should be able live to finetune the 1-64 degrees of the scale used.
For example if we use a quarter tone scale and we have 24 degrees in our scale then
the 1-24 encoders should be able to retune live specific degrees of our scale or being
able to alter our temperament as we play in a predictable and precise way on the whole midi range.
Each seq encoder 1-64 should be able live to finetune the 1-64 degrees of the scale used.
For example if we use a quarter tone scale and we have 24 degrees in our scale then
the 1-24 encoders should be able to retune live specific degrees of our scale or being
able to alter our temperament as we play in a predictable and precise way on the whole midi range.
#15
Discussions / Re: Problems sequencing the Po...
Last post by Baloran - July 21, 2024, 01:04:24 AM Cirklon uses the note on with a velocity of 0 which should be interpreted as a note off. This is authorized by the midi standard, I had forgotten it for The Pool. I still don't see the point in the Note Off, but that's how it is 
#16
Discussions / Re: Problems sequencing the Po...
Last post by KazRemark - July 19, 2024, 07:36:41 AMUpdate on this, I've been emailing with Laurent and he sent me an updated firmware that fixes the problem! Merci
#17
Discussions / Re: Does it fit on top of The ...
Last post by Baloran - July 19, 2024, 12:31:27 AMWaouou
But please, remove this protective film from the screen, the screen manufacturer doesn't put them on like the ones on our phones, it leaves lots of bubbles that I sometimes manage to smooth out, and the quality of the protection isn't very pleasant to the touch
But please, remove this protective film from the screen, the screen manufacturer doesn't put them on like the ones on our phones, it leaves lots of bubbles that I sometimes manage to smooth out, and the quality of the protection isn't very pleasant to the touch
#18
Discussions / Re: Does it fit on top of The ...
Last post by rdgallagher - July 18, 2024, 08:40:38 AMWell, it turns out the arms on the K&M extension aren't very adjustable. I'm not planning on keeping it like this, just for the photo - but for the purposes of the thread, it fits!
And what an absolute spaceship, eh
And what an absolute spaceship, eh
#19
Discussions / Re: Problems sequencing the Po...
Last post by Baloran - July 16, 2024, 10:47:09 AMOk, well received. I haven't Cirklon for test. With Ableton Live and Arturia Seq Keyboard,no problem. Cirklon is terrible Can you test if Cirklon send noteOn with velocity=0 for noteOff equivalent ?
USB Link is just for USB. Have you connect POOL Midi Out to Cirklon MIDI IN ? And Without this link, problem is the same ?
Can you test if Cirklon send noteOn with velocity=0 for noteOff equivalent ? USB Link is just for USB. Have you connect POOL Midi Out to Cirklon MIDI IN ? And Without this link, problem is the same ?
#20
Discussions / Re: my last summer wish, I pro...
Last post by Baloran - July 16, 2024, 10:42:19 AMYes , it's on the planning but a little later